It makes you blind and clueless to how a customer is actually using your product and how well it integrates in his business and future activities. So the staff there tries to work You don't even seem to get reputation points for purchasing items, assuming I've read the page correctly, and if that is the case it's just dumb. Fantasy is a bit better, but sic-fi gets me 10 copyright infringements on the first page alone (star wars characters, mainly). (just playing with ideas here) when the same type of issue occurs on CGTrader, the Staff policy is to do nothing. (this would be the core of the human sorting out system). That is why I like to use Apple as the example of preference. You can just buy and return it if it is not to your satisfaction. He earns trust in this way and we know everything stands or falls with the coming and going of trust. If they want free models then they can go elsewhere!!! CGtrader is everything Ts is not, CGtader is fair, its open and communicative in all directions, its an inexpensive service, its new and more efficient, has lots of exiting tools, have more sales and get to keep bigger part, its growing fast, its updating and improving fast, etc, etc,. Login to PayPal to add your account as a payment method. A customer coming in from outside can view stores, search inside a store or still search the global data base. The people at the top of the pyramid scheme bully all the new modelers who show any sales success because they barely scrape by as it is so it is really bad work environment to work for Turbosquid is not worth your time. I hope to find same courage someday ;-) You are clearly one of the professional buyers who doesn't take advantage of the system but there are so many out there who do that and 3D sites are beginning to try to safe guard their artist's work by not making it so easy to just get everything you want for free. Professional Rigged 3D Female Models Toggle Navigation; 3D Models New & Unrated Rigged Price. I am going to start a list to promote artists who are making great models but just aren't getting the views. See ourPrivacy Policyfor more information. That's what I'm saying all the time and what I didn't like because I was not selling models for 3d printing and reason why I left. I don't think trying to sit down with one ass on more then one chair at the same time is a good business. This is hight quality female model with animation friendly topology. If I narrow to "man", it's even worse : 64 out of 128 models displayed are scanned 3d models. You could have a superman body with an iron man head and spiderman gloves. What, iterateCGI goos down? Plus, as I saw in another post, turbosquid does not let you post any links. I think I like the another item the modeler has created (Modern Villa), but that item is $40. Buyer can contact seller directly, which can save him/her lot's of time and frustrations. This would be a really good way of encouraging buyers to come spend their money on CGtrader where they can find what they want faster than on other sites. Being an artist himself makes a huge difference in this regard. They provide clients with pretty much everything they could possibly want at reasonable prices and have a 100 percent guarantee return policy on all their items. My friend didn't get any support. personally CGTrader is the second site where I realize more sales, I think we should avoid generalizing his own experience. To be honest, when I first found this site a few days ago I was really excited. CGTrader. its hard to run such a business so i hope cgtrader will survive in the future. I will search on TS and when found right model I will maybe look at cgtrader if there is that same model for cheaper. The utopian view here is a successful merge of all related activities (or at least part), connecting as much people as possibly can that are doing something that could potentially involve 3D, and in doing so eventually streamline part of the global 3D marketplace and increase the amount of successful transactions between many possible parties. There is a lamp that looks pretty cool (Gervasoni Bolla Floor light), and is supposedly free. Agree with every word. Ps. Hmm, i went to your profile and i see no negative feedback. i like the points system on cg trader . But Also Turbosquid actively promotes models on their site with the use o. As we think that CGtrader holds the best core for these kind of improvements, I would like to hear the opinion of Marius or any other CGtrader representative about the ideas recently proposed in this forum, specially: I agree with Captainmarlowe than one of the most important ideas to develop is more "education" for Sellers about all aspects involved in this business, and some kind of system that favors good and fair business practices and penalizes bad ones. Don't forget those young people are going to shape the future of this market and if we want to have a flourishing market then we need lots of well trained people in it. I agree structural arrangements need to be done to support this bud it needs to be done in a way so it supports the main axiom of openness. This is from my own personal experience. TurboSquid. While there is some sellers that naively think they can rely on Turbosquid's good will to improve their situation in the future, the rest of us should be start working together towards a collective benefit. According to me ,in the future, more a 3DMarketplace will be open more it will take to success. Turbosquid is basically a pyramid scheme for the most part unless you are established and have been in the top rank for many years. Fine details have been sculpted on the model down to pores and fine lines on the face and body. 2. And if the buyer sees one and the same model on CGT and on TS, then the price will choose on CGTrader [/quote] Rigged models are great for art projects, games, movies or VR experiences, because they save a lot of development time. We initially did the 3D printing focused homepage after noticing that CG customers skip the homepage and come directly to product page, mostly knowing exactly what they need for their projects, while 3D printing customers need more direction and inspiration, so that even non-professionals can discover this new industry. Show more, By subscribing you confirm that you have read and accept ourTerms of Use, max, fbx, blend, uasset, tbscene and more, obj, fbx, unitypackage, prefab, mat and more. I wont be using TurboSquid due to their royalty system and the fact that I would have to hunt down non-existing forms to prove I am not an American resident and thus avoid paying 30% govt. I understand CGtrader's management don't want to bet on one horse but it probable lives the two horses crippled in this case. After selling on TS over 20 years I can share that our sales here are x5-10 higher (partially due to stopped publishing on TS), so why about uploaded your models on artstation marketplace or other market place which allows you to sell in other sites, I think ts is the worth one. Cgtrader user interface is much more user friendly. This is new era, time of old fashioned corporatism is going to be over. Next we would have the sales/customers feedback factor coming in to sort out the stores ranking. stores with its own labels for 3D printing, 3D stock, crowdfunding, game models maybe even concept designs, sound files, storytellers, code for making apps, 3D scripts, etc) Each of this stores would then again have subcategories (e.g. See ourPrivacy Policyfor more information. Order 3D models. Same for me, here. CGtrader might have better conditions, rules and everything but it's useless if it doesn't attract more buyers. But they can still contact the artist for fixing issues directly here on CGTrader. Using TurboSquid 3D Models in Virtual Worlds. I have been studying their website from a buyers perspective thoroughly and I have noticed that; 1. (I'm aware this involves many aspects) Currently on a tight budget, would lose a substantial cut to pay for software licenses and hardware. It is pretty difficult to find what you want but if you are only looking for free models then CGTrader's search engine is far better than Turbosquid. I removed all products from TS. In one case, the model is promising, commercial, and then set a high price. And good thing that you decided to tell about - such things should go public and be discussed. And IMHO search is an area where CGT shoul focus first. I don't know if Turbo Squid allows licence ownership to be transferred as i never got that far with them. By subscribing you confirm that you have read and accept ourTerms of Use. Having too many high poly models in 1 scene can considerably slow down rendering times, work flow and even crash your computer making the entire scene unusable. They do not deserve that I fed them 60% So just to be constructive (and this will be my last post here, because I don't want to hijack the thread anymore, here are some ideas : They said fraud protection is only reserved for exclusive sellers. https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-models/industrial/other/shipping-container--4. Unless you have a huge ass :) You can not keep all aspects of these markets covered, so you will only be average on all of them or even worse. It is also my favorite 3D site but some things need to be fixed before they can overtake some of the other sites. I believe this would solve the 'bad content mixed with the quality models' problem. However, the behavior of these clients kept me thinking and I had some dilemmas about what was actually going on here. "that is where the big money can be", being able to part with an invention has value. I can think up multiple scenarios to try get a grip on it but I don't actually care anymore. Beautifully put IterateCGI, let's hope it is signal for more than just Tubro's downfall, but hopefully the downfall of treating 3D creators like shit. After that response I selected all my models and took them offline. Of course, as CGT reputation grows, this may change in the future (CGTrader has already beaten The3Dstudio in terms of statistics, but you also have to take into account that there are certainly a very significant amount of people coming here for 3D-printing only, which decreases the statistics in terms of regular CG models). CGtrader is founded upon the best ideas and the people hoe believe in it and keep supporting it no matter what and hard work and determination always win. This is a totally separate "operation" that is going on under the acquisitions of CGstudio and T3DFM, which serve also as noisy cover to "wag the dog". And it offers a more strategic dimension. Fact is, the best is where is can make the most sales. I could go on and on, it kept me puzzled. In order to post an answer, you need to sign in. However, the use is allowed if the MMO is a closed MMO, like World of Warcraft. - It's much easier to upload products here than at TS. Allot of snags and details need to be worked out in order to make this sorts of things happen but the main idea here is to have complimentary forces working together to make a better product. When someone uploads a scanned model for 3D printing and tags it as "low poly", the model will appear even where it shouldn't. Uploading new product is so much more intuitive and easier than TS. I tested it with golden palace, clothing and various hair, other textures, they all worked fine August 22, 2022 at 6:03 am #1859211 Sabrina Participant Rank: @Goblyn Glad you enjoy it! Maybe they should just smack up one big "We're cheaper than TurboSquid" banner and push it into Google Ads? Cubebrush. A few weeks later, my first 3d model was sold on TS, while I had to wait 4 or 5 months to get my first sales on CGT, And the sad thing is that those sales concerned only low-priced models. So, Ts will probably have a few thousand lawsuits to issue in following months if they like. Founded in 2000, Turbosquid has championed growth in the 3D space through partnerships with leaders in the industry. Term of Use on www.turbosquid.com. And at the same time, if they periodically do something here, try to add something new, then the TS, as long as I remember it, does not particularly try to become convenient (But at the same time it takes most of the profit !!!). Machines have already replaced people making their jobs irrelevant in many fields already more and more customer service jobs have become automated, many store sales positions now are not needed because so much is being done online, the tolls on the highways now only use fast track or you get a letter in the mail telling you to pay it because there is no one in the booth anymore so you can't pay it on the road. This is the Tesla Model 3. If you have any questions about these. A possible solution for potential buyers looking to sample the work of sellers, would be for sellers to have their free sample models at a low minimal price instead of free. Products are subject to the TurboSquid, Inc. [http://www.google.com google5 ] Many do not search the net, they go directly to TS and search there for models. And precisely here is where I think resides the greater problem. Think about the best online stores today when people search for lamps on Amazon they will only find lamps in their search and that is why they keep buying on Amazon because it is a highly efficient and professional site where the buyers don't get lost or frustrated looking for what they want and can spend their time searching for the best quality product based on their budget. Your account is not in CGtrader and I can't see your models, and judging by the link in your comment you are just a spammer. Our "power struggles" with Turbosquid stopped the moment Matt Wisdom banned our account and we stoped doing business, however that doesn't alter our will to expose this kind of business practices. I think these are questions that every 3D content creators must honestly answer for themselves. Imagine how much easier it would be for a games company to do a search by typing in (sword, 15 dollars and then 500 polygons. adentonclark is 100 percent correct in this regard! A shitstorm war is going on between the "Wisdom" brothers & their Top $ Corporate Investors against Marius' CGtrader, who is leading the inclusive people that don't dance to the song of dangling shiny coins in front of their eyes just for the time being and the now. I think that the ones that do come here to buy CG models might not return if they get fed up while searching for the right one. According to TS "Marmoset Toolbag's watermark" is an overlay and a no no. The motivation to backlink and make marketing efforts for the own store (and the collective trademark ad the same time) would probable also increase. The rewords for selling objects from others could for example be 1 CGcredit for tier 1, 2 for tier2, 3 for tier3, 4 for tier4 and so on. Although I agree the presentation of CGtraders home page is heavily focused at 3D printing, NoneCG did not suffer ANY drop in sales. Gritsuk : Hello Friends, glad to present you my model Female Hand Realistic. If you're searching for a regular model, you have to click on the little icon "CG models", but nothing changes on the page when you do so. ", then there is little one can do but wait out the rebalancing. Payment Method There is other sellers that don't have any problem doing the same: That's why I won't model one single model for online sale until this heinous situation is rectified. The biggest problem with TS is that it is a pyramid scheme if you have a diamond account you have a good chance of selling models but at the low levels you have no chance. The designers make a deal with each other and negotiate a percentage on the sales. Tom cat cartoon character rigged for Maya 12. For small buyers this is likely the case, but serious corporate buyers may have other priorities atop of lowest price. But this is perhaps the only plus turbosquid. So what I did was simply adding the 60% cut to the product on Ts. On the other hand, reason for refund should be solid. Sometime buyer in frustration just leave bad review on the model for issues that can be solved easily, but since he cant contact seller he thinks he cant do anything about it and he wasted his money. in the name of freedom expression of the buyer (???). This is why I would opt for a system which includes human sorting out capabilities. I do agree with you regarding the search engine. Sales site defending exclusivity trying to find ways to seduce (like the famous CheckMate) but this has no return. $300 + (280) $200 to $300 (315) $100 to . https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-models/exterior/landmark/notre-dame-de-paris-cathedral-61d97afb1b1a62861673c23f15b75c12, All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others. In other words as an artist in TS you are not so well protected, as it's here at CGT. You don't even seem to get reputation points for purchasing items, assuming I've read the page correctly, and if that is the case it's just dumb. No frankly, it's a bloody mystery. Basically, they continue to sell their previous models or are selling non-liquid assets. No, I don't think it's just about SEO. Get this item for $ when you bundle it with the items in your cart. TurboSquid be avoided guys! Hello, However, we have detected that you have set your prices back numerous times after we have made appropriate changes. Here it is quite seamless and elegant. We've been doing business with Turbosquid for more than 10 years until our very public issues last year: http://www.nonecg.com/turbosquid/turbosquid_nonecg.htm. and cgtrader is easy to navigate and great UI, Turbosquid is a very shit comparing to CGTrader, i dont like turbosquid i prefer CGtrader absolutely, I think it is more comfortable to use. If you have any questions about these. On Ts we get served for extreme large cost and rather badly frankly said. This used to be the case in TS as well, but the issue is being solved, this will have to happen here on CGTrader as well. I've often (not just at this site) downloaded "free" items to verify their quality before purchasing models from a vendorI had problems with 3-4 of the "free" items I looked at first here (having no idea there was a limit), and now I can download no more. Maybe there is something behind the scenes what you can't know or can't tell? Hopefully this will start another interesting discussion . Like when something breaks that is no longer in production like your favorite mug or something. But I will look there only because I know what is cgtrader and how it works. I'm just an end-user, one of the people you guys sell to, and the site is a large part of the issue, in multiple ways. So click on a category. 4. Being between a rock (TS) and a hard place (CT) is a damn round the clock aggravation. In my understanding, for CG models, there are three main trends : large public with various expectations and low budget (roughly, poser people) ; professionals needing a good quality model quick and ready to pay for that (roughly, TS buyers), programmers wanting to create video games in search of game ready assets. If any of you think this is a show of strength from Matt Wisdom and his Corporate brother Andy, think twice. There is indeed much structural work that needs to be done here but the core foundation/principal is here. They recently changed their search engine over there and when you search for Free models it comes up with a few free ones and many more paid ones so from that perspective Turbosquid makes your life even harder lol. You are just providing a platform." Change Method. It is a wonder how people still haven't fixed bugs like that after so many years and it made the whole uploading process a total hassle. They then review the model and contact seller to fix it. Some may look great for close ups but in a large environment scene or house setting when you have a lot of models to let's say show off the interior design of a model home you need to be very careful on poly count. Lots of people buy posters to print and put on their walls especially students. Its great way to compete and fair . Delhi Escort Free models are posted for lots of different reasons, not just only to serve as an example to show of artist modeling skills/quality of work (sample data). In my experience often times a client will ask for certain models but then one must take into consideration what computer specs they have because you don't want your client to get frustrated with the models you buy. Here is a quick test that can help understand why there aren't so many buyers. Get this item for $ when you bundle it with the items in your cart. So the wonderful conversion work/time spend of this individual could have helped him to get a complete refund, and the two others, (hoe I have send off here) would also have been helped whit a nice maya file, and I would have sold at least two more models (Everyone would benefit). Royalty rate of CGTrader allows the seller to make a model cheaper than on TurboSquid. Having a direct link/communication is also critical in detecting possible needs and potential new business. I'm even considering seriously closing my store here. Doesnt matter the kind of kinky-dinky stuff the platform provides me. Yes, buyers has free will to express their opinion about model, but in case of negative feedback such opinion should be reasonable and motivated. @ Supercigaleha, ha, a good point about ,,the famous CheckMate,, :) TS . Products should be grouped not only by name and category but also by poly count. Even when Ts would sell more models it does not mean they serve you well, because it is not. You are clearly one of the professional buyers who doesn't take advantage of the system but there are so many out there who do that and 3D sites are beginning to try to safe guard their artist's work by not making it so easy to just get everything you want for free. For example, make affiliation partnerships between people/storeowners possible. I am hoping that never happens Exnihilum! https://vimeo.com/739678 Yes. Sometimes 3D model can have some errors, or it was not 100% what buyer had imagined it will be. There are lots of fun ways can gain points on cg trader . For me CGTrader is the best and CGTrader has the best structure of a 3d site !!! I have it is about 5%. They will be very enlightening and useful to you especially if you have never built 3D models and don't know what to expect. If there is a problem they will fix it for you. Please let us know if you have any feedback. That basically says paying customers aren't allowed access to supposedly "free" items. Regarding the support case, perhaps you could share the exact details on the case by a message or email to me (dalia@cgtrader.com) - we would like to look more into it and ensure that no cases like that are unsolved. "This is new era, time of old fashioned corporatism is going to be over. I left the turbosquid from Diamond level . A few months went by with my models offline and during that time my GCt sales gradually went up at a level consistent with the few sales I had left behind on Ts so I just deleted all my models at Ts. Hopefully we can find a way that would plrase all sides. If you manage to get lots of buyers on there you could make a real fortune. Ts went head on and contacted me (I was probably among list of targeted folks at that time, Ts previously also contacted me to make some shady deals which I rejected), now they requested me to lower my prices according to new price grantee model.
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