Especially the one where Kris is holding a water bottle 30-40ft from the photo-taker. CARACAS, Venezuela -- Few Venezuela ns have not had their lives touched by migration over the last decade, when more than 7 million people left the country amid a political . For a monster (him or them) this was enjoyment. The dog ran away and they followed it into the woods to try to get it back? Perhaps Kris is already caught in the trap and thats why she is in a funny position and her waist is drawn in tight. For what reason? How close was this tribe to where they went missing? Disturbing evidence also showed there were a number of failed attempts to unlock Kris' phone - sparking another theory that Kris had died and Lisanne was frantically trying to access her phone to get help. The camera had a video function this could have been used including of course sound. I suspect the food may have been left with them when they were abandoned by drug traffickers (who initially abducted them on April 1st) after Kris was hurt crossing the monkey bridge. The jungle was searched for another ten days with the help of the cops from the Netherlands - but there was no sign of the girls. It suggest that this case goes deeper than we imagine. Yes, the photo data was manipulated. Kris Kremers, 21, and Lisanne Froon, 22, went for a walk through the scenic forests around the Baru volcano in Boquete - and never returned. WHY? Many hikers from all over the world disappear, fall, or suffer other fatal accidents while traveling - this could've happened to these women as well. I posted a link at Koude Kas of example of Monkeys playing with phones because they were entranced by the flash. I agree w rope around waste thst wasnt there before, hair is completely down Aldo, shes in distree. So many clues in all these pictures. How Many Tourists Have Gone Missing in Panama? Same goes for the hair photo, that people think might be a portion of a previous shot. Haha. Perhaps this is someone who had already joined them along the trail, and that only one of the girls was cool with the third party thats why the complete change from the first exuberant pictures. Hi Susan, those are all possibilities. Do mobile phones store the number entered? Looking forward to reading what Bethzaida Pitti comes out with in the book she is co-authoring about the case. Look for an ex-military man who may be the culprit. I wanted to share this article from a big newspaper in Panama. I also live in a third-world country about which it was said that investigations were shut down, or botched, to protect the tourist industry. I can assure you that is nonsense. The photo to me appears that she simply is bending over to get the sun out of her eyes, with her right hand help up to shield the sun. I think this has been added to hide the fact that Kris was not wearing boots, as this was a shot of her from somewhere else and superimposed on the jungle scene. US Is Europe's No. Granted, other dangers certainly exist and thats why we can only speculate about what happened to them. Seems like no one has taken off in the direction of the dog and what it could have offered us. Its interesting to hear that you are considering putting together a research team to visit Panama and further investigate the details of the case interviews, videos, mapping terrain, etc. Perhaps the photos served astrail markersto help the young women find their way around or back to therescuers. Easily done, I have done that myself several times. In India's Parvati Valley, dozens of male tourists have gone missing But by April 6, the girls were still missing. I think its equally powerful just to disprove the official theory. Also the path looks to be a dried up river vs a man made path. Why would they remove them? Most travelers that have big experiences want to remember the small details of trips, because the trip represents an important memory in their life. It looks a bit wierd, but that is just because everybody is assuming they see her upper arm when in reality is is her lower arm. I would also like to know the time that photo was taken that day. Well be mapping the trails with a GPS device, searching for the location of the night photos and capturing aerial footage of the rivers in the region. Only a fool thinks they were attacked by people. Many people in El Salvador permit their dogs to roam freely outside in the streets and forests. I think that this is a photoshopped image made by cutting out a picture of Kris and pasting it onto a background to give the false impression that Kris and Lisanne went on the Pianista Trail. JW, I agree with you totally, thanks for your intelligent remarks! The backpack contained sunglasses, a camera, two cell phones,money,two bras, Froon's passport, and a water bottle. Further to my earlier reply of a few minutes ago, I think the dying from exposure angle is only possible if we consider that either the girls abandoned the rucksack for some reason or it was discovered after their passing. One or more abductor did know the phone PIN but not all people involved knew. I think most of what people are seeing -other than the obvious, of course- is pareidolia. And I cannot fathom standing this way, hands behind the back and turned like that unless my hands were restricted behind my back. More info here. Who said there werent any scratches on the bones? And I think that sunlight she is trying t avoid also is the reason for her facial expression. Very interesting.. incredibly complicated for a new story to be written. I did not cover all of the accidents and trials and tribulations along the way leading to their death.Jim. The police, the media attention, the suspicions on him. Kris en esta foto, tiene sus manos atrs, que podran estar atadas o esposadas . If anything, that is an evidence that they were taking more risks than a regular tourist/hiker, so being lost and/or injured seems to me much more reasonable explanation (than murdered) based on that. There is much speculation about the night time fotos made using the Cannon. You will notice another branch of dead leaf just below it. Whatever happened and if it did not include a third party must have been serious and traumatic because we live in selfie times and as can be seen from their earlier fotos they were in the selfie zone. she does see something disgusting. The lower orange being around the belly area. The illusion of her being tied and in distress is nothing more than that. & the way the local police handled it seems so botched making it stranger, & why keep some pictures hidden from the public still, especially if the case is closed now? The last set of pics is especially chilling to me, my first thought was Lisanne may have been bound & hurt & somehow able to gain access to the camera & made a last attempt to signal for help or document everything around her as best she could & thats why all the angles are so awkward & unfocused. Image 505 is actually the last image before the night photos. I wish I had them as actual photographs that I could shuffle around until I can place them in the order in which I think they were taken. Its disturbing. And the black mark on her face. Este rosto de uma jovem que est angustiada,aterrorizada sem saber o que fazer para se salvar. Two years later, a 23 year old American woman is strangled to death while walking the trails. In all the other pictures she is always got her arms visible, I find this very odd. Then there are no images until April 8, when 90 unsettling nighttime pictures were taken with flash in the middle of the jungle with timestamps between 1:00 and 4:00 AM. But they are hurt and they are lost. or It is extremely easy to photoshop a photo once it has been darkened. I see orange spray paint markings on the base of the tree further in the cave to Kriss right. Wonder if it could be a piece of an aircraft wreckage. Thanks for all you are doing Chris. Thats perplexing to me. A year later, two tourists following the same trail are robbed at gunpoint. Also, I do not know about the girls living situation and the relationship between the girls and the owner. One question sticking to the government interference and coverup, with the deletion of a photo (nr, 531?) After taking a deep dive into all the evidence and flying out to Panama to do their own investigation, the pair concluded that the girls deaths were an accident. Australia has 2,000 missing persons and 500 unidentified human remains I was looking at the photographs again and something caught my eye. Thank you, and keep up the good work. There are . Nobody knows what happened to Kris and Lisanne and everything is open to speculation until more information is found. Yes theres a man to her left crouched down wearing beige/ beige/ brown. There are over 30 fingerprints on the blue backpack which belongs to one of the girls, but they dont want to investigate the fingerprints. Im sure that when they left on that short hike that their intention was to be back home before dark and to be back to the host home for supper on time. However, if Kremers and Froon had found manmade ramshackle structures during their hike, such as the possible items viewed in this photo, its possible they had unwanted company. The rock isnt about the twig its got chunks of flesh and blood splatter all over it to the right and back of rock. However, on closer inspection you can see that the left hand side of the post is really a vine or root hanging straight down and the white at the top is a patch of light in the background, as if there was a small narrow window in the bank Through which the sun is shining and it also looks as though someone is looking through it at Kris. When she finally reached her friend, it was basically too late, or very close to it. If so, it would indicate that she had been kept alive for a few weeks or more. I know that its tempting to a lot of people to make simple conclusions, but its simply not possible to make conclusions without more information. Totally agree, Alexis. She ties the red bags to branches so they can spot her if they get near. If their experience was catastrophic that that happened shortly before 16:36 UNLESS both were incapacitated and sense only returned at 16:36. Thats the very first thing that crossed my mind. Lisanne's bones appeared as if they had decomposed naturally - but Kris' bones were mysteriously stark white as if they had been bleached, raising questions about whether someone had been involved in her death. If the dog went with them, its likely that the girls would have taken a photo of the dog, even if the dog was in a photo accidentally. Ela est apavorada Slight left and up from the girl. Trust me, I prefer to take the easiest explanation too. This tells me that they had a time in their minds of what time to leave to get back to their host home in Boquette. Or if they went, they could have been followed by someone the murderer (or murderers). Basically, theres a lot of government corruption and poverty as a result. I dont see any confirmation from law enforcement either as to whether or not the white bones were tested for bleaching. Kris Kremers and Lisanne Froon (lost unreleased/uncompressed original They provide a live accounting of missing-persons cases. We have 5 people ending up dead, and the skulls of the girls are never found. And the police are not helping at all it seems to me that they want to destroy the investigation. Kids in the area could have found the backpack and were just messing around with the camera. If I saw a cow skull hanging in a tree I would get the hell out of there, not pose for a photo. And one of the images chillingly showed the back of Kris' head with what some sleuthes believe is blood leaking from her temple. I believe the backpack was placed near the river in order to indicate where the remains would be found (like a flag), and perhaps the backpack was provided in hopes to receive the reward money, and the location of the backpack meant that searches would move to a different location (potentially because the police were too close to the suspects at the time). As a side note, if all of the photos are in the order in which they were taken, why do they put their hair up, and take it down so much? Then uses the flash to take many photos of the area, so she can return for Kris after finding help. Perhaps Kris fell first and Lisanne heard her scream and running in fell herself. Perhaps he gave some other persons a lift with the girls as is one of the stories out there. Its very interesting that the dog is not clearly visible in any of the pictures. I created this graphic and highlighted the unusual items that seemed peculiar to me: In this photo of what looks like a cave or overgrown ravine, there are numerous possible items that suggest this place had been visited by other people. Really sad story, whichever way you look. The place itself might reveal some clues as to what sort of person or people would construct it and what are the chances of them doing something bad. The red and black objects look like bolt cutters or tree cutter. 4. (this was enhanced by an AI as someone who has studied this sort of thing professionally, explains some of the distortions and weird patterns in the photos leaves and vines, the AI distorted her face lol and it made it appear she has no arm from the elbow down). But absolutely everything points to it being a case of underestimating the jungle and dying from exposure. I dont know if this photo is before or after a photo where Kris appears to have mud on her legs and on her arm. Their story captivated me for some reason. Thanks Chris!! There were no signs at that time. To see all content on The Sun, please use the Site Map. I wonder? No,they werent murdered. If you find any additional information, please let me know. In image 505, it is around 4:30 PM on April 1st. Why are both her hands behind her back? These are more unanswered questions that we may never know. Definitely foul play, in my opinion. However, if Continuous mode was in use then even if 509 was deleted, the next image will be 510. And thinking its more possible that another person with a bleachbath and a Laptop/PC is wandering the jungle in Panama just shows me how little people nowadays know how dangerous the outdoors can be. The alarm was initially raised about the disappearance of the girls after they missed a private walking tour of Boquete on April 2. Once you see it, you cannot unsee see it. Hi Anna, youre casting a wide net when you say If anything, they work harder to try and bring anyone to justice that harms a tourist.. In either case, maybe the rucksack was looted then later planted to avoid criminal implication. The fact that the backpack showed up on the bank of a river completely dry and unharmed downstream, with the camera and other electronics still functioning, shows that someone placed it there. The deaths of more than 4,680 people have been documented during migration in Asia since 2014, often linked to the exodus of the Rohingya from Myanmar. I think that the taxi driver knew who has killed them thats why sb killed him, the guide man who found the bones and their belongings can be the murderer and he was the person went to their room maybe to find the cable charge maybe pretending that he hadnt visited them on the reserved time, then he put their bag and money and camera for police because he was scared they search his house too, the locals heard screaming and then a crash (broken bones due to fall) in the jungle 4 days after their missing and warned about that to some french tourist, this article is long and I didnt sleep last night. Auto Reset and Continuous. This is relevant because if the camera was on Auto Reset and 509 was deleted before 510 was taken, then the camera would use image 509 again. The mans face is clearly visible standing behind the rock with the red bags. Thanks and cheers. It needs to be stressed that while the AI upsampled image looks impressive, it cannot and does not recover any lost information. The students from Amersfoort in the Netherlands had spent six months planning their dream trip to Panama, hoping to spend some time backpacking, volunteering and learning Spanish. Why? (The photos where the sky is suddenly cloudy). You can even see the smudges or blurring on the bottom of the plants into the dark areas in an attempt to blend the darkness area (where something or someone was likely standing). You highlight the importance of fastidiousness in the articles that I reference. Numerous families of disappeared family members have contacted me from my writing and the following is nearly always the sentiment they convey: Local authorities are unreliable, careless, slow to respond, even slower to take action, and they often hinder the familys own investigations. Dyatlov Pass Tourists Go Missing While Visiting Area of - Newsweek Read Matts article about the daytime photos (link) for more detailed information. While I do believe eventually, and possibly soon after this, there was foul play, I dont think anything untoward was happening as of this photo. Missing migrants | Migration Data Portal And they wont leave until they know all hope is lost. Use soft language and leave out gory visuals in what you write. The consumption of Ayahuasca as a religious experimental drug is becoming very common in different countries. The world may never know what happened to the pair, but speculation still runs wild. They decided to take that short hike, but they failed to tell anyone where they were going and what time to expect them back. I have seen some gruesome stuff where a captor will smash the feet of a captive to prevent escape. Why did he leave them? This eliminates all questions about why didnt the girls call X, Y, Z.
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