Some may seem that way to those who dont adhere to a particular faith. Recap. Students who engage in underage drinking or provide alcohol to underage individuals may be subject to legal sanctions in addition to University penalties. I attended Pensacola Christian College in the early 1980s. You sure do sound like the typical judgemental fundamentalist type that writes these student handbook! Mature, responsible people are able to think for themselves and moderate their own behavior. No TEA???? Thats what you have to do in order to survive there. I am not a follower of Christianity nor do I have a problem with that, but these establishments are making the entire religion look crazed and judgmental Just sayin. They also require the students to dress up for all morning classes, no matter what the class was too. Alcohol makes a person less alert and diminishes self-control. Only God can do that. In conclusion, I dont think that students are better off if they go to these schools, and I would not encourage anyone to do so. For instance: (1) in your room and dont come back out after 10:30pm; (2) she was 20 and we both had to get permission for her to visit my family 35 miles away, permission from her mother and from my grandmother to go to Grandmas house; (3) we had our social privileges removed for 2 weeks because she rubbed my shoulder while I was laying on the school grounds as she was sitting on the ground next to me. But premarital sex, homosexuality, aligning oneself with occult religions (though the handbook never actually specifies which belief systems they consider occult), using expletives, tobacco possession or use, dancing, and working at any establishment that encourages or involves any such things apparently constitute impropriety and stand as offenses worthy of expulsion. Students are not to attend bars or clubs where alcohol is the primary feature. Beards are completely banned without explicit permission from the school, and neither gender may color their hair or wear any form-fitting apparel. Just my humble, unbiased opinion; take it or leave it. Rules above and beyond that can get in between us and God, but condoning behavior that goes against His ways is very dangerous. They have every right to set the standards they want to set. I assure you, not all Christian are like that. Unfortunately, 1 Corinthians 8 is the famous and ever-taken-out-of-context passage used by Christians to justify substituting their convictions for Biblical truths. this is what I think of those colleges They can go fuck a buffalo for all I care how dare they dictate your life. Oddly left out are West Point Academy, Air Force Academy and other military schools. YouTube. According to the student handbook, Nearly 70% of our undergraduates are under the legal drinking age. Students hoping to visit any friends of the opposite sex must receive permission from their families and keep it on file with the school as well.. In addition, attendance at parties, clubs, casinos, restaurants, and bars is expressly prohibited except when no alcohol is present. If anything, its pushing them further away because they feel even more separated from God. And this is coming from someone who was offered a full scholarship to Liberty U and refused (stricter than this article implies-Biology majors beware, as evolution isnt even a theory to them). Look it up. 3:34). We married after she graduated. For these students, drinking is not only unwise, it is also illegal." Im very sorry that Pensacola was such a horrible experience for you but keep it to yourself. Still having nightmares. everybody who reads this will be without excuse when they get o the Great White Throne judgment before God. HA!!! Christians not overtaken by an archaic dislike of alcohol from the 1920s can read this passage and apply it to Cedarville in this way: Students should not drink with students who are not legally allowed to do so and students should not drink too much alcohol, thereby maintaining self-control over their bodies. As one of the underground liberal minority at the college, I disagreed with almost all the guidelines. Id go ahead and start packing. He turned water into wine. Allowing dancing at any school-related function on or off campus is strictly prohibited, though students are allowed to bust a few chaste, pre-approved moves at weddings, military balls, graduation exercises, church, and family occasions provided they refrain from attending clubs, bars, or parties that allegedly lead to temptation no matter what. Carson) does not equate to belief in everything they believe or agreement with any or all of their actions. I can understand dancing in a lewd manner in clubs being prohibited (not really, actually I cant understand most of these being prohibited even when it comes to upholding an image of morality) but what about ballet? Keep up the good work! As discussed in the article on Cedarville's alcohol rules, when you make something illegal, it doesn't stop people who want to do it. So do they follow the rules or not? Guys did not have to accept dates with interested women. Yay secularism! I went to a Catholic University in Los Angeles and they do not have rules like that sothere. While this is a nice general principle, it is not full proof. If you want information about these schools, do your homework by going straight to the source. Even if you are a staunch conservative fundamentalist christian, I would not recommend attending Pensacola Christian College. Were MADE in Gods image, and so the things we feel and do were felt by God first! Please rethink your mission before writing on something destructive. The rule is not to Bible-thump students into submission and control. This university has impacted my life in so many ways, and has helped me see just how to integrate my faith and integrity into my career. -Having or Supporting Abortions, similar to the last one. Second, since only very strict Christians will be attending these schools, students wont have as much exposure to other points of view unless they actively seek them out. But its greatly changed now. Since, as was noted in the introduction, it usually remains the students choice to partake of such environments, I dont think that we can disapprove of these schools on ethical or legal grounds. "Clothing should not be excessively short or revealing," the handbook reads. Guess what these colleges are wrong to force students to suppress their governing rights that were written long before most of these colleges where even developed. They are definitely much more lax now the girls are fine wearing pants (modesty is suggested). And of course, students can meet ANYWHERE else on or off campus whenever they want. Choose this day whom you will serve, and if you will serve the Lord, beware, lest you make the grace of our God into Lasciviousness. Forgery, providing incomplete or misleading information, scanning and not attending chapel, or misuse of your student ID card are examples of dishonesty that will result in discipline. todays society are those who want to ban guns because they kill people, yet want to drink, smoke, and do whatever the hell they want because its there right. It is not unreasonable for them to expect the students attending a Christian college to live up to the standards lai out for them. While some rules are debatable, yet this writer seems to think The biblical expectation of modesty is that the conduct of both men and women, which includes but is not limited to dress, serves to enhance rather than detract from the reputation of the Gospel (1 Tim. Okay, I am here just to argue about one thing. So next time you choose to attack our schools (speaking more to some of the comments than the actual article), check your sources. Your moral compass seems to be spinning. Most of my serious infractions involved demerits for not emptying the trash, not having two feet on the floor at morning light bell, hair touching my eyebrows and humming along to my roommate playing Dust in the Wind on his guitar. Which brings up the question Why go there if you dont fit? Actuallythe standards for Brigham Young University are slightly off. For one year, I attended a college that was, easily, as strict as any of the above. Cedarville does their best to preserve their image among students, and that is a precaution that I dont think is unreasonable. If you study at a high quality MBA program in the United States, you can use that degree to improve your reputation and career ANYWHERE in the world, unlike law or medical degrees (or worthless degrees from diploma mills). So sorry for everyone you had contact with. go to freethoughtpedia and look up PCC and read the review of a former student. Except he isnt the one setting it; its man claiming to speak for him. That rule only applies to PUBLIC showings of movies, like if a student run organization wanted to have a movie night on the green for the student body. such as premarital sex, pornography, etc. However, I dont think its quite as strict as some of the other colleges on this list, notably 1 3. I agree that dancing and such is probably a step to far, but the types of people who go to Christian colleges and the like are probably not as bothered by the restrictions you name. I attended Liberty from 99-01 and it was great. That rule ONLY applies to publicly shown movies. But most, if not all, of these schools require their faculty to live up to the same or stricter standards standards that the faculty and the school believe are right. They do not prepare you for the real world unless you want to work at and be totally immersed in a strict, judgmental and very dogmatic church for your whole life. Makeup really? Dallas Christian College directly addresses individuals who feel their extremely staunch policies are either too slack or too restrictive, stating that such measures strike a balance between freedom and Christian piety. Dry Town: Why Cedarville Township exists as one of only hundreds of dry towns in the U.S. So teach us to number our days that we may get a heart of wisdom. Now on to the next part. I believe the answer lies with how students (like me) were raised. Some of the dating offenses include displays of affection beyond hand-holding both on- and off-campus, seeing one another in swimming or sunbathing attire, not exiting a car at the same time immediately upon turning off the engine, being caught alone together while at school, and going on single dates while a freshman. All of which are traditional dances and (in my opinion) in no way put the dancers morality and purity at risk. As a former student from 2010-2012, I can attest that convocation wasnt required, students could hang out in mixed groups on and off campus, and public signs of affection are commonplace, and Im not talking about hand-holding. I often hang out in large groups without a chaperon at like 2am. HONESTY One of the marks of integrity is honesty. YAAAY ORU and all the others. he would allow an environment that would dishonor the name of Christ. follow you to church? when they prohibit homosexuality while prohibiting interaction with the opposite sex. Cedarvilles policy on alcohol is not founded in fact, policy, or Biblical principle. If the truth is found in the Bible, abide in it, and depart not from it. If your radar is accurate, it will not take you long to bag a highly-repressed freak. Possessing legal pornography, light to moderate drinking (even non-alcoholic versions of beer or cocktails), gambling, premarital or extramarital sex (regardless of whether or not the latter take place within an open relationship), dressing immodestly, supporting or practicing religious beliefs in line with the occult (with the lines of what constitutes such practices never explicitly stated), using profanity, tobacco, engaging in or supporting homosexuality, and having or supporting abortions are also very much in violation of the schools strict moral guidelines. Thankfully, Christian colleges provide a better environment than secular campuses. To be sure, the school was known more for its strict rules back in the 1980s than for its educational prowess, and those rules were sexist (women had to wear skirts) and ridiculous (movie theatres were banned but VCRs weren't). I attended Asbury in the early 2000s, and I think some rules have changed since then. First, he writes that something that can be disputed does not make it a theologically disputed doctrine. Institutions promoting morality in an immoral society. The point is, in my opinion, someone needs to establish guidelines for our youth. Seriously. This article oversimplifies the issue, as well as interprets the motives behind the rule, both of which are misleading. We call our student handbook The Cedarville Experience because it includes many of the guidelines and principles that will shape your time at Cedarville. If you tell your kids what smoking does to their lungs, they wont even *want* to smoke. They just dont want you showing /Friday the 13th/ or anything, due to the content. degree, but never got it. . They reserve the right to discipline any student who does so, most especially in cases when the politics and ideals expressed in the protests go against the schools extremely conservative beliefs. The veritably Orwellian Florida Christian College combs through its students media collections, banning any books, movies, music, magazines, or video games it deems detrimental to Christianity. He let a known to be unclean woman wash his feet with perfume. Most are Christians, majority of them from teh south and alot of them are athletes. We can have/get tattoos, we dont have to attend church at all if we dont want to. Ten. The suspect in the deadly Michigan State campus shooting, who later died at a Lansing location, was a 43-year-old man, Michigan State University Interim Deputy Police Chief Chris Rozman said at a . They try to teach young adults how to dress in the business world when I went. You already know, lots of persons are looking around for this information, you can aid them greatly. Treating free-willed adults as if petulant children incapable of forging their own individual perceptions, decisions, and behaviors.. Society may indeed be corrupt, but Christianity is no better. I wonder how they deal with Darwins theory? Mixed groups of males and females must agree to confer in the presence of a chaperone. They help stem the tide of STDs, date rape, the dangers of substance abuse, etc., Tons of guys here have Call of Duty and Halo, Skyrim and Gears of War, heck, many have Mortal Kombat and Devil May Cry. Wow, the writer of this article is very intolerant. Students are allowed in each others hall lobbies at any time during the week until midnight, and students of the opposite sex are allowed in each others rooms on Fridays, again until midnight. Third, many of these rules ban things that arent dangerous (eg dancing, scary or violent movies, and sex so long as the people involved know what they are doing and all proper precautions are used) and that are a lot of fun. There are so many problems with this statement. The difference is, God cares about the first and does not care about the second. Articles are submitted and written anonymously in order to protect the identities of students and non-students alike who could face backlash or punishment for expressing their viewpoints that differ in any way from Cedarville University. This Florida institution takes its honor court very, very seriously going so far as to issue demerits for a number of completely legal offenses. In accordance with their Mormon faith, students must also refrain from the expected and reasonable discourteous and illegal behavior but coffee, tea, responsible alcohol consumption, and tobacco are also disallowed as well. 14; 1 Cor. The college actually will accept you no matter whatever religion you are, even if you are atheist. Major infractions largely accepted by mainstream society and allowed under American law include dating violation[s], owning potentially offensive media (which will get confiscated), swimming with the opposite sex, patronizing a movie theatre, attending a concert, receiving a tattoo or piercing, gambling, possessing pornography, or purchasing and using tobacco (even when of age). How about youth? OR a girl from State college,, who has photos of herself posted , throwign up drunk in a men`s bathroom, has slept with numerous other men, a couple of abortions behind her, and had sex with strangers on spring break because she was drunk and had to take penecilin afterward, then had to lie to her future husband about it all mmmm i`lll take the girl from the christian college,, thanks. Demanding a radical commitment to Jesus Christ of all students involves not only the usual abstinence from illegal substances and behaving courteously, but a number of other legal but forbidden or discouraged behaviors frowned upon by the religious right as well. At BJU I just couldnt get any action as the boys are all homosexual or want to be. You heard about how bad these schools are from people who got kicked out? All resident and commuter students at Oral Roberts University are required to attend church at least twice a week and find themselves to a highly restrictive dress code. But unless you go, you cant mock it because you havent even been there or checked it out. There are as many answers as there are people to consider the questions, because the world exists in shades of grey. If you dont like it find somewhere else to go to college. If your happy with your life, enjoy it your clearly not hurting anyone and therefore absolutely entitled to that choice; and for many that way of life makes people better. There is a fence with razor wire enclosing the entire campus. Going far beyond the usual, generally accepted standards of not breaking the law, acting in a disruptive or discourteous manner, and remaining honest in word, deed, and homework, they raise a number of fascinating moral and ethical questions regarding personal freedom. EAST LANSING, Mich. (AP) The 43-year-old gunman who killed three students and wounded five others at Michigan State University had no apparent connection to the campus, police said Tuesday as they searched for a motive for shootings that terrified the community for hours.. Investigators were sorting out why Anthony McRae fired inside an academic building and the student union just before 8 . but those who curtail their rights are guilty of stupidities. This was in Roger Rosenblatt in his essay We are Free to Be You, Me, Stupid and Dead. There is no doubt in my mind that students who wish to drink will find a way to do so, just like students who struggle with sexual temptation will find a way to engage in such activities if that is truly the desire of their hearts. She worked a part time job, attended church, volunteered at a local organization, was on a school team and carried a course load of 15 to 19 hours while maintaining a 3.8 GPA. Feb 25 (Sat) 5:00 PM. It is not discouraged at all! Ugh. Those who attend any religious school, on their own desire, will attend one in line with their personal religious beliefs. The university itself is also strongly anti-alcohol, arguing that consumption of alcohol is inconsistent with a Biblical lifestyle, even though Jesus drank wine and the Bible is filled with positive references to alcohol. I do not see why people judge these schools so harshly as a non-christian I still think that these colleges are not wrong. No video games may possess an M rating, nor are students allowed to own movies above the PG-13 rating. They make you go to chapel church services every single day, and some days you have to go to church more than once, the only exception is if you are sick enough to be in the infirmary. I know Id want someone to visit me. -Engaging in or Supporting Homosexuality, this one is tricky. Many colleges with rules similar to these have their students sign a form stating that they have read the rules and agree to live by them mine did. For these students, drinking is not only unwise, it is also illegal. We all wore makeup, etc. 31:4; Rom. Like that other poster, we werent able to read the handbook until the day we arrived. Welcome to a nation who makes each individual feel entitled to make his own god based on his opinion. What rules are they not so strict on? In other words, there is a difference between going out to drink with a friend who is an alcoholic and drinking in front of someone who is just offended by it. Its similarly interesting how people choose which laws & pieces of the Bible they will follow. No one is going to forbid interracial or homosexual relationships, no one is going to forbid occult religions, no one is going to forbid fornication, and you wont be able to handle that. Your email address will not be published. Oh, Im sorry, you must know so much more than the current students and those who have graduated and are leading great lives. Theyre not going to hunt you down or anything. Case in point: I had been dating the same guy for over three years. In addition to outright banning the expected illegal and discourteous behaviors, premarital sex and homosexuality are considered as absolute in their alleged offense to God and society as stealing and lying. Access Gmail. I wish that I could say that Asbury was an inspiration for my ethics and for the transformation in lifes journey but I have to say that came from my church experience, my family, UK, and other experience. D.A. Registrar's Office. And obviously the floor leader used her positions power to sexually abuse you. So quit whining about some article some guy wrote on the internet 3 years ago about the strict standards set forth by some colleges and start asking yourself- do these standards actually bring people closer to God or are they pushing us further away? 16 17. Davenport. Woe be unto a civilization who rejects the counsel of the Holy One, and would none of his reproof! Because the nude human body is just as detrimental to society as a sawed-off shotgun. 3) If God destroyed a city because there were some gay people there, the takeaway shouldnt be that homosexuality is wrong, the takeaway should be that the Old Testament God is an evil monster who at best needs to be disobeyed and at worst needs to be destroyed. A church I was told to attend? This is one of the major reasons stated by Dr. White himself. Im an army vet who went into humanitarian work when I left the army, honorably. I would love to have continued healthy dialogue about issues such as these, but in person. Just so you guy who are whining about people not having freedom: These students CHOOSE to attend these colleges in full awareness of their rules. Penalties may include fines and/or imprisonment. Look at the corrupt Catholic Church, and look at how many pastors are child molesters. To create a healthy environment for our students, and in some cases to comply with the Drug-Free Schools and Communities Act of 1989, Public Law 101-226, Cedarville University adheres to the following guidelines for all undergraduate students and graduate students enrolled in degree programs on campus, including those students who do not live in campus housing. Its interesting how no one stops to consider how small their God & free will must be in order to need such standards. Those who speak and act to offend may be jackasses etc. Their lives suck. As our Cedarville University community processes this situation, we pray we would do so with humility, grace, mercy, integrity, civility, and respect. Since Asbury, I dont believe that she has read one new such book. Cedarville ought to take this Biblical message to heart and change their policies to allow responsible use of alcohol. Center for Teaching and Learning. So whats wrong with what they are doing. their own standards, and this writer makes fun of them as hopelessly pathetic. My mothers beliefs were disliked, so when I became an orphan I was put into foster care by my family and forbidden to speak with my cousins or brother; I was a gateway for satan to taint them.. at 12 years old. The last one about Liberty isnt even true. They make you go to bed by 11pm every night, even on weekends, no matter what homework projects you may may be working on, no matter what, no exceptions, unless you want demerits. It really sucks that you went to such an awful college. 2:310; 1 Pet. But the following schools nonetheless play host to a number of regulations that seem rather appalling to mainstream society, and this article takes an admittedly irreverent peek at a little of what they have to say. Hide/Show Additional Information For Notre Dame OH - February 24, 2023. The big issue that I have is the way the university attempts to control activity while school is not in session and students are at home. All mixed groups of men and women both on and off campus require the presence of a chaperone to intercede on any behaviors they deem offensive to their conservative sensibilities. What do the students do when theyre not in classes? I read the comments first, and assumed that they were being prudes. Register for Classes (Students) - Student Planning. I transferred to PCC my sophomore year and had a great floor leader. Same reason why youre allowed to practice pretty much any religion and go here. Cedarville's policy on alcohol is simply another notch in the post of treating students like children rather than adults. Evansville, IN Deaconess Sports Park. These places really need to get it together, damn. The Cedarville Experience, our student handbook, is designed to help you be successful at Cedarville University. When asked why not, her response is always that she lost a lot of her motivation and dedication for faith development because of the Asbury rules you were not allowed to grow up into responsible adulthood. Evansville, IN Deaconess Sports Park. Maybe this list should just be 10 Strict Christian Colleges? God created happiness and laughter. Women have to wear a dress or skirt and hose most of the time. -Underage gambling is also against the law (and also gives into the sin of greed) While it usually remains the students choice to partake of such environments, many outside the affiliated fundamentalist organizations may look over their rules and find their jaws dropping. Lets hope your RA didnt pursue a career in counseling. Minor infractions include borrowing and not attending chapel and group devotions on a regular basis. This biblical teaching, coupled with the reality that alcohol is addictive to many and that alcohol-related problems pose a major threat to college students, warrants wisdom concerning the use of alcohol. And Another note. While this article certainly peers into their doings from the perspective of an outsider, it admits that the real answers remain entirely subjective and highly nebulous. It is a choice for the student to go there, they arent forced. He transferred to public school where he had no friends and even less support and encouragement from faculty/students, and two months later he shot himself. Affiliated with the Reformed Presbyterian Church, the College built its first building, Old Main (now called Founders Hall), in 1895. Location & Hours 251 N Main St Cedarville, OH 45314 Get directions 8; Gal. Reviewed: 9/28/2019. Openly homosexual students are allowed to attend classes, but they must commit themselves to the same standards of staunch chastity as their heterosexual peers. The official Honor Code of BYU strictly outlaws camping trips with members of the opposite sex, though instances with separate accommodations for males and females will at least receive a modicum of consideration and reduced discipline if unauthorized. The author of this article did not support, in any way, shape or form, getting drunk. Theres morality, and then theres this. Of course, Jesus advocated The Commandments, not hip, redesigned for 2012, laws. I attended Asbury for four years, the handbook is terribly written, but the rules are not as strict as they are presented here. 2 min read. According to a blog post made last November by the school president Dr. Thomas White, and referring to Philippians 4:8 (which honors "whatever is pure"), Cedarville will soon institute a new. Serving alcohol at bars or restaurants, keeping hours past 10:30 PM on weekdays and midnight on weekends, and door-to-door sales without expressed permission from the dean or a retail license are all forbidden by Bob Jones University. You should consider Faulkner Univsersity for one of these top 10. Students are not allowed to use, purchase, share, or possess alcoholic beverages, tobacco products, or any illegal drug on or off campus. While BYU does accept students who do not belong to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, they are still required to participate in the community as if they were. I accumulated more than 100 demerits during my first year and because of this, they did not allow to me to return the following year. Official MBA partner of The Economist. But do you know which degree is still highly valuable? Other than in the residence halls, shirts should be worn everywhere on campus, including the Callan Athletic Center. We are no worse off if we do not eat, and no better off if we do. Just like if we do a 270 double front flip on our jet ski, we are no better or worse off. DRESS AND APPEARANCE Our approach to standards for dress and appearance seeks to honor biblical principles of modesty as humility expressed in dress and to provide general guidelines appropriate for a Christ-centered educational institution.
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